#10 Entrepreneur Emil Kendziorra: Cryonics – Freeze! You are dead

«I assume that when I am 85 or 90 years old, it will not yet be possible to live significantly longer. Then cryonics is a choice you can theoretically make tomorrow. Knowing that it is currently impossible to say whether I will wake up again at some point.» Dr. Emil Kendziorra, Cryonicist

One year before the Voyagers take off, David Dunbas lands his only worldwide hit with a commercial in 1976: «When I wake up in the morning light…» But what would it actually be like to wake up in the morning light of a distant future? The «freezing» of space travelers is a popular topos of sci-fi in order to bridge the inhumanly large distances of deep space. So when will this finally be happening?!

Dr. Emil Kendziorra is the founder and CEO of the Berlin start-up Tomorrow Biostasis. The company offers to preserve you after your death. Head only or whole body. Cryonics seems to be a desirable offer for humans who do not want to accept their first death – there are several hundred people on the waiting list. However, it is far from clear whether research will find a solution for safely thawing these bodies in the future. And who it will be that wakes up there.

We talked to Emil about exactly how the procedure works and clarified the question of whether we actually talk about «living on» or «re-living» in the field of cryonics. And incidentally discovered great job prospects in the future for all career changers: Welcome classes for the newly defrosted!

The conversation took place in German.

Further links to topics of the dialogue
Hendrik Otremba – Kachelbads Erbe (book)
Liu Cixin – Trisolaris-Trilogie (book)

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